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In this 11-minute visual choreography of conversation, Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza and Erin Christian Law unpack the emergent concept of carceral spirituality—where punitive logics shape our inner lives and sacred practices. Through a contemplative exchange, they explore how control, shame, and moral surveillance manifest in religious life, and draw resonances with Buddhist frameworks that offer pathways toward liberation. This is not a debate, but a dance—a co-weaving of wisdom, presence, and the practice of unshackling the soul.

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